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Post by Moooperator on Feb 8, 2009 21:46:38 GMT -6
Here's something that should wet your whistle for the collector who thought he had everything. One of our new members, Wayne offered this up for the Focus this week! This is great! Maker:Paillard (Switzerland) Model:Last Novelty #206 Serial# :200627 Years :1910-12??? Cost :5 Guineas - a spring powered machine cost one eighth that price Case : oak 18"D-19"W-12"H YES OAK!!! Turntable :12" Soundbox : Maestrophone Engine : Stirling hot-air Horn : 22.5W-27.5D all brass There is a serial # on the engine #200627. I know it's not far a part from the machine Rene owns #200994. We don't think many were made. Again of all the ones known, this is the only one of the #206 to survive. It was found in a collection I bought in Mexico.The man I bought it from found it in 1967 in a small town outside Mexico City. It runs on methyl hydrate alcohol. In the manual it states that it will run for 12 hours on one tank. However, after 30 minutes it gets pretty HOT inside the box, so I think 12 hours is OUT!!!. Originally, the manual states it was powered by spirited alcohol... Whatever that was. Un-governed it runs at 420rpm.
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Post by gramophone on Feb 8, 2009 22:01:17 GMT -6
Mr.Moo, Thanks again for your help in putting up the pics for the other collectors of the Maestrophone hot-air machine.In the UK they were sold under the Apollo name.I thought I should mention that this machine not only plays great old time music,BUT makes great toasted marshmellows at the same time!!!!!LOL!!!!.Truth is it is quite tricky to run safely and have almost burned it up twice.
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Post by MTPhono on Feb 8, 2009 23:03:53 GMT -6
That is a fantastic example Wayne! I had the pleasure of seeing Rene's in action last year. These have got to be the most interesting motor power sources ever made.
And again, a brass horn. I love it! Is that also a matching cabinet? Even if it isn't, it's just perfect. Overall a very classy setup.
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Post by gramophone on Feb 9, 2009 8:40:18 GMT -6
Thanks Scott, The cabinet came with the machine when I bought it.Not sure if it is the correct cabinet,but it works.Give me a sec....... have to turn the wienners over!!!!!!.LOL!!!.Point of interest.....I bought this collection pre-911.I don't think this would be allowed on the plane home today.Can you say "STRIP SEARCH"!!!!. Wayne
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Post by style6 on Feb 9, 2009 9:18:41 GMT -6
They certainly are a fasinating machine. What Paillard Maestrophone soundbox do these use?
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Post by gramophone on Feb 9, 2009 9:49:59 GMT -6
The reproducer is called a Maestrophone "Maestoso".
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Post by tinfoilphono on Feb 9, 2009 12:53:29 GMT -6
That sure is a beauty! I don't know for sure how many of these survive in both cabinet styles but as far as I know there are only five in north America (three in the US and two in Canada). And it seems that few of the survivng ones, whether on this continent or in Europe, are in running order today.
Mine has a "Maestrophone Soprano" reproducer, a direct knock-off of a Victor Exhibition.
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Post by style6 on Feb 9, 2009 14:09:08 GMT -6
The reproducer is called a Maestrophone "Maestoso". I wonder if it's a later replacement, or was upgraded by the store owner before being sold. The "Maestoso' was patented in 1916, so it's entirely possible with the price of these machines, that it sat in the shop unsold for a few years.
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Post by gramophone on Feb 9, 2009 14:34:21 GMT -6
That's interesting.......My "Maestoso" reproducer has 1906 grand prix,Milan printed on the inner paper label.I also have the other "soprano"which also is printed with 1906 grad prix,Milan.As far as we know these machine's did not hit the market till the 1910 Leipzig spring fair and production stopped before or after the first war.Of note the "maestoso" with needle is perfect in line tracking to the center spindle.The "soprano" which as Rene wrote looks just like a Vic exhibition and is a smaller diameter to the "maestoso" falls short of the spindle (just).Since this machine was found in an area where parts would not be too common,I would have to surmise that the "maestoso" is the original to my model.One last note regarding size....This oak case seems to be much larger than the walnut version.OK!!!! the hot dogs are ready,who wants one? ?.
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Post by style6 on Feb 9, 2009 16:40:46 GMT -6
Your Maestoso must be an earlier version to mine. My inner label has no dates whatsoever, but has the patent date stamped on the plate which covers the rubber on the connector. Paillard made that many soundboxes it's not funny, but it's very interesting that they made 2 different ones using the same name. This is the front & back of my Maestoso, and the front of my Maestoso No.2. I guess then that mine are really no's 2 & 3.
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Post by gramophone on Feb 9, 2009 18:17:17 GMT -6
Gramophoneshane, If you send me your email I will send you pics of my reproducer.Your right!!!.yours is differrent than mine.I have never seen ones like yours.I did at a later date find another "maestoso" like mine and the "sorprano" also in Mexico.Darn!!!! I think I over cooked the dogs again.That's the third time this week.BTW,interesting story...I use to fill the tank,light it,and place in the box.BIG MISTAKE!!!!.One day as the fuel was sprirting out the breather hole in the filler cap and up my arm......I think everyone can picture the rest of that painful and hairless story.From that day forward.I fill the tank,place it in the box AND use a BBQ lighter.Lesson learned!!!!!Ouch!!!!.
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Post by MTPhono on Feb 9, 2009 18:23:51 GMT -6
Wayne,
It would be nice to also have the reproducer pics as part of this thread. I would be happy to post them here if you email them to me.
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Post by gramophone on Feb 9, 2009 18:46:31 GMT -6
Let it be known to all that Scott is great!!!!.I think I should stick to spring motors instead of computers.BTW,for the other members, we have only been with a computer and on line for less than eight months!!.Thanks for your patience
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Post by martinola on Feb 9, 2009 19:11:04 GMT -6
Hey Wayne! What a cool machine... er, hot machine... (you know what I mean!) Did they make any asbestos records to play on it? Thanks for sharing it with us! Martin
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Post by gramophone on Feb 9, 2009 19:28:28 GMT -6
Many thanks Martin, No asbestos records,but I have seen a few with asbestos linning the inner case.Of course you will have to wear a HazMat suit to enjoy your machine.I'm sure it's worth it.LOL!!!
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