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Post by yesteryear1 on May 28, 2009 8:41:20 GMT -6
I just put this one up Youtube. It is a 1901 Fortune Telling Record. I would imagine at the turn of the Century, folks were really amazed at such a record. Here is a brief demonstration for those who might be interested.
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Post by MTPhono on May 28, 2009 8:53:54 GMT -6
Yet another item I never knew existed. I know the term "amazing" is often overused but this IS amazing! Was there a series of these records made or just the one? Are there other multi-track records from this period?
I am surprised the needle doesn't skip grooves occasionally from track to track -obviously at some point the grooves must cross. How does this work?
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Post by yesteryear1 on May 28, 2009 9:07:05 GMT -6
I would have to do a little research on that, I imagined that that there are three continuous grooved running parallel to eachother, note the short duration of each fortune and the song. I will take a close look at this record and report back.
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Starkton
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How do you get that
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Post by Starkton on May 28, 2009 9:26:52 GMT -6
The first commercial multi groove disc was recorded on September 2nd 1898: "Puzzell [sic] Plate" with two piano solos. It was issued on UK Berliner, No. 5504.
The second was a triple-track: "Puzzle Plate in a Church", recorded in November 1900 and issued on UK Berliner, No. 9290.
I have the track listing of another English puzzle plate of about the same date: 1. A Piano Solo; 2. A Humorous Talking; 3. A Song, "The Way to Kiss a Girl." The Gramophone Co. gave it away in January/February 1901 to customers who cut out, completed and sent in a Nipper puzzle. Later on the price was 5 shillings, double the price of a regular issue.
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How do you get that
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Post by Starkton on May 28, 2009 9:38:51 GMT -6
I am surprised the needle doesn't skip grooves occasionally from track to track -obviously at some point the grooves must cross. How does this work? No, the tracks are recorded after one another and never cross. As the spacing of the grooves must be much larger than usual each track lasts less than a minute. The gag is that you never know which of the two or three lead-in grooves is hit.
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Post by yesteryear1 on May 28, 2009 9:59:35 GMT -6
So was this the first Multi-groove (Triple Track) Victor record to be released? or were there some before it. Darn it, I want it to be the first of Something!!! Heh Heh
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Post by phonophan79 on May 28, 2009 10:59:52 GMT -6
Hey Guys - Here is my YouTube video of a demonstration of a multiple-groove record / puzzle record. This principle was used to make a horse race game in which the winner would vary each game. In this video, I play four of the different endings. Listen for: 1) Man of War wins 2) Twenty Grand wins 3) Gallant Fox wins 4) Omaha wins
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Post by phonophan79 on May 28, 2009 16:58:14 GMT -6
There is a wikipedia write up about it... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multisided_record...I'm almost positive this article used to say "Multitrack" and now it says "Multisided". The write-up is correct but it looks like someone incorrectly changed the name of the article? Ah well, these are def fun records.
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Post by yesteryear1 on May 28, 2009 17:46:46 GMT -6
Yes that's neat. Check it out, it even has my early Fortune Telling record at the very bottom of the write up.
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Post by Moooperator on May 28, 2009 18:43:34 GMT -6
I noticed the first fortune was kind of non gender but the 2nd was intended for a female... of course today they are both acceptable!
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Post by gramophone on May 28, 2009 20:49:56 GMT -6
I have a 7" Berliner "puzzle record" the matrix # is 1000 recorded early 1901.It has three tracks and it all depends on where you start it, you get a different song.There is a 10" Victor as well.They are very cool and hard to find in good clean shape.The grooves are SOOOOO tight.FYI,there is one for sale on ebay and it's got a few days left!!!!.Good luck. ;D
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Post by old-phonographs on May 28, 2009 21:25:12 GMT -6
I believe the 10 in victor was a re-release of an English puzzle record. I have it somewhere. I also have a British Zonophone puzzle record. These are really fun stuff. I had no idea there were any this early. You learn something everyday in this hobby! Thanks for the posts folks!
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Post by roaring20s on May 28, 2009 23:05:57 GMT -6
Thanks for the inspiration. I have always wanted one of these and it has been out of my mind for a long time. This was a buy it now item item on eBay this evening. It may be the Victor "old-phonographs" and "gramophone" made mention of. I think it is a great novelty. James.
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Post by style6 on May 30, 2009 0:39:34 GMT -6
This might be the last multi-track 78rpm, out here anyway. This 12" disc was pressed by HMV in both New Zealand & Australia, and contains 6 tracks per side. .
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Post by old-phonographs on May 30, 2009 7:23:33 GMT -6
Thanks for the inspiration. I have always wanted one of these and it has been out of my mind for a long time. This was a buy it now item item on eBay this evening. It may be the Victor "old-phonographs" and "gramophone" made mention of. Great find. That is the very record I was referring to. It's a lot of fun. Dan
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