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Post by tinfoilphono on Feb 8, 2009 11:09:43 GMT -6
I love those seamless horns.... How about a pair of 14 inchers with angled ends:
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wjw
Two Spring Motor
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Post by wjw on Feb 8, 2009 11:13:13 GMT -6
OOH, I'd love to hear that machine!
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Post by andersun on Feb 8, 2009 17:04:48 GMT -6
How about a set of original Polyphone 24.5" horns. They make a lot of noise! My great-great-grandmother is sitting in the middle. www.theedisonshop.com/Concert Poly.jpg[/img]
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Post by Moooperator on Feb 8, 2009 20:41:55 GMT -6
Oh wow... what a fine setup! That's one I'd love to hear play!
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Post by MTPhono on Feb 8, 2009 22:58:44 GMT -6
you guys have been really busy adding great horns over the weekend - what a pleasant surprise to see SO MANY great horns and machines.
Rene - what is the cylinder box in your picture above?
Steve - where did you find a matching set of horns and crane? Where they with the machine when you bought it?
Awesome stuff!!!
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Post by andersun on Feb 8, 2009 23:16:24 GMT -6
Steve - where did you find a matching set of horns and crane? Where they with the machine when you bought it? The horns were with the machine that I purchased from the daughter of the original owner. The daughter was 94 years old in 1981. Her father was a pastor in a church. The town purchased the Concert and it was played and stored at the church. The pastor ended up with it after it's usefulness was no longer needed with the advent of more affordable machines. The lower part of the crane is a standard floor crane. Rene helped me with the upper section which is a reproduction.
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Post by MTPhono on Feb 8, 2009 23:41:42 GMT -6
This has got to be one of the funniest, most creative posts I have ever seen on a phono-message board. Jeff, you are my hero! George, I'm glad to now know that no matter how much time you spend in this hobby... you can always find a few surprises. Here's one for you. I actually own a whale skin cygnet horn... I hope you can tell which one it is in this photo. it's the first one on the left. The one mounted on the little Edison fireside machine. It is made from Beluga whale skin and I find that the sound from it is rather high on the treble side. Also it is a very costly horn to upkeep - Eating over 25 pounds of cod fish a day. If you guys want to use my photo in your next book just let me know. I love sharing my rare phonographic items with the community.
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Post by downsouth on Feb 9, 2009 0:15:58 GMT -6
Now having seen all these Bettini "double horn" configurations. I am curious to know if an attempt was made to split the setup on a cylinder machine using just one reproducer and two horns from the one source? Kindof maybe a "Y" of some sorts and then two horns for greater volume? Has anybody seen anything like this or has anyone tried it?
Wes
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Post by MTPhono on Feb 9, 2009 11:00:48 GMT -6
Wes,
I am certain I have seen an exhibition setup that used a single reproducer with a "Y" or more accurately a "T". One horn faced forward, the other back. IIRC I saw this setup in a drawing so whether it was ever manufactured is unknown.
George - what this shown in one of your books? Last night I looked in Accessories and in Gizmos but didn't see it in either. Did I miss it? Or am I thinking of another publication? It might have been in MAPS or the Soundbox too.......getting old.....memory fading......
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Post by tinfoilphono on Feb 9, 2009 11:27:40 GMT -6
The Edison Duplex reproducer was set up to use two horns from one diaphragm. A very rare bird....
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Post by phonogfp on Feb 9, 2009 17:32:26 GMT -6
The Edison Duplex reproducer was set up to use two horns from one diaphragm. A very rare bird.... That's the baby - - we showed one in the Compendium as well as Gadgets. The problem with an Edison "Duplex" Speaker is that each signal is directly out of phase with the other - much like the Kalamazoo Duplex Phonograph. That wouldn't prevent me from buying one if I had the chance! George P.
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Post by MTPhono on Feb 9, 2009 17:42:00 GMT -6
If they are 180deg out of phase then this cannot be a simple "T". This must share a common diaphragm and port sound out each side of it. Is that correct?
Were these used to increase volume (in one direction, like a Polyphone) or was it used to project sound in different directions? I thought I remembered seeing a drawing with horns pointing in opposite directions.
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Post by downsouth on Feb 9, 2009 17:51:56 GMT -6
I knew somebody would pickup on this and jog their memory. Anyway you look at it, I think it would be a pretty cool looking setup. I think I might have to try to put something together in the next week or so just to see what the results would be. I'll be sure to pass along what I findout.
Wes
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schweg
Three Spring Motor
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Post by schweg on Feb 9, 2009 18:17:00 GMT -6
Click on "full size" and it rotates and changes to correct proportion...
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