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Post by singenz on Jan 14, 2012 22:41:09 GMT -6
I want to buy a power cord for a VV 8-4X that has the "antique look" of the 1920's. I know a standard extension cord will do, but I'd like the look of an original. Do they exist? Where can they be found? Whom do I contact? Please help.
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Post by eckster on Jan 14, 2012 23:23:36 GMT -6
It only shows a listing For VE 4-4x When victors went electric they went to victor electrola model not victor victrola which were hand crank models. I will check for you it might be under RCA depending on the year. It would be nice if you had the serial number. I think most of the VE models came with a standard powercord. Some cords had the half moon like plug ends that plug into the wall. They also used fabric insulation to cover the wires.
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Post by eckster on Jan 15, 2012 0:21:29 GMT -6
Ebay doesnt have much and most of the chords are in bad shape If you can look up Victor electrola there is a lot. The forum has been slow for a few days so eventually someone will come through.in the mean time if you can find an old radio pereferably Electrola brand it should work. old school powercords used fabric insulation. Local antique places may have something too. I will keep you posted.
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Post by eckster on Jan 15, 2012 19:15:09 GMT -6
I found something on the victor victrola page on the VE 8-4x. the vv series is a rare rare model and the ve for that matter If yours is the vv model someone at one time must have converted it to the electric motor or switched name plates. Check out this link www.victor-victrola.com/8-4.htmIf you start something from here you may find something useful. I went to some antique shops today The cords on these old machines were deplorable. you can actually make a cord by getting the old ends getting the proper guage wire some electrical supplier stores actually sell the cloth fibre sleeves.(which are usually black) get the right length. It comes in rolls and go from there. At least when you make one it will look close to original. You can check this one to see if it has a power cord . Other than that craigs list has nothing. hopefully its still up for bid. tippecanoe.craigslist.org/for/2679532872.html. Thats if you want to buy the whole unit for 75 bucks and tinker with it or use it for parts.
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Post by eckster on Jan 20, 2012 23:46:25 GMT -6
After giving a lot consideration to electric VE model machines. You might want to consider electrical appliance codes in your state. Yes its nice to have a vintage machine close to the original but with electric units you have to consider that original is not always safe. Original wires are generally more susceptable to meltdown and fire hazards. After decades of having electrical current going through the same wiring, wires fray and oxidize. Add to it unwanted power surges increases the risk of fires. you may want to do a few upgrades to your machine but stiil have the original components. like i said in the early post. scrap the idea of finding the original powercord to the unit. For safety reasons you probably wont find one. Make one using the proper guage wire and use the sleeve that looks vintage. At least its approved. At this time you may want to lift your motorboard and look at the condition of the wires running from the switches and to the 2 poles on the A.C. motor. If they are brittle tanned or cracked you need to replace them especially the ones that run to the connector under the wooden wire protector. those usually get exposed due to pulling the connector by the cord. Make sure your switches are in tip top shape. since these motors are a direct D.C. motor and not a shaded pole design and the speed is still controlled by a mechanical governor setup much like the crank type. The pole peices tend to get warm or even hot. It is a good idea to splice in a pop out type circuit breaker in the event of a problem or overheating. The advantage to this is it can preserve the life of the pole peices(assemblies i should say). Vintage peices are nice but vintage original wiring is a hazard and in some states insurance will not cover your treasures in the event of damages caused by worn or old components that fail. It is a lot better to have a broken spring than it is to lose everything due to an electrical fire
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Post by eckster on Jan 20, 2012 23:55:40 GMT -6
Note even if you use a powerbar with a breaker. I would still splice a secondary breaker in the unit as a fail safe. Play it safe with electric powered vctrola machines shorts and exposed wires can also cost you your life. No room for short cuts when it comes to electricity. Electricity finds the EASIEST way to ground not always the shortest.
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Post by ncphono on Jan 26, 2012 13:42:19 GMT -6
Brand new cloth covered cord is available from Sundial Wire. They also have new old-looking plugs that will let you create a new, safe power cord that resembles the original. The original most likely was a twisted pair, either 16 or 18 awg. This is all you need. An electric motor is unlikely to be an electrical hazard, however I do use a power strip when connecting old radios and phonos with electrical amplifiers so that I can switch off the power when I'm not using it. www.sundialwire.com/cloth-coveredwirebraidfabric.aspx
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Post by phonofreak56 on Jan 26, 2012 16:59:17 GMT -6
Thanks for posting this website. It is very helpful for radios ans electric acoustical phonographs. Harvey Kravitz
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Post by eckster on Jan 26, 2012 22:01:45 GMT -6
Thats the stuff. Hardware stores in the Electrical section sell sundial wire and cotton sleeves too
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Post by singenz on Jan 27, 2012 0:52:21 GMT -6
I want to thank everyone for sharing great information and tips. Your knowledge and willingness to advise is gratefully acknowleged. I'll check out Sundial Wire
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goldy
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Post by goldy on Jan 21, 2014 5:42:00 GMT -6
i have a vitrola vv 8-4 original, model 1926
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